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Major Gods

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Minor Gods

Classical Age

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Mythic Age

 

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Mitchell Williams

You guys need to start doing a bit more advertising, and a dev blog or two, might build up some more hype, like, A LOT MORE

Noah Shepard

Pretty much this. People need to know this is a thing.

Frankly Man

Also agree, I and others are very keen to know more.

Johannes Steidele

Agreed

Witek

Why there is still no adverb on Steam?

Wouter Snauwaert

What about the major gods? Don’t just skip ’em!

Frankly Man

Yeah, agreed. They have their own upgrades and God powers to, but also abilities/perks.

Wouter Snauwaert

Exactly!

Sids

I expect they’re saving them for the final reveal. To be honest, I want to see the minor gods more, since they come with myth units.

Wouter Snauwaert

True, but I’m curious about the archaic godpowers, since those could make a huge difference early on in the game 🙂

LuchoUy

By today we have Fuxi, Nuwa, Shenong, Sun Wukong, Huangdi, Chang’e and Zhong Kui

Only 5 spots left.

Possibles Gods:

Zhu Rong: God of Fire
Yanluowang: God of Death
Xihe: Goddess of the Sun
Wenchang Wang: God of Culture
Baosheng Dadi: God of Medicine
Lei Gong: God of Thunder
Matsu: Goddess of the Sea
Shenglong: Rain Dragon Deity

Others:

Pangu
Tian
Gong Gong
Daode Tianzun
Lingbao Tianzun
Yuanshi Tianzun

Ao Guang
Ao Quin
Ao Run
Ao Ming

Place your bets!

Sids

Well I’m hoping for Guan Yu

Wouter Snauwaert

Not a God either :p But would be cool to have him as a hero unit!

Sids

Are you sure on that (genuinely wondering, I could be way off)? My understanding was that while he was a real guy, after his death he was claimed to have found enlightenment and been deified and in some areas is still worshiped (Wikipedia supports that too, but take that with a grain of salt). In a tradition where real mortals can ascend to godhood it seems a bit of a grey area between reverence of a general and worship of a god.

But I agree that either way he would certainly fit as a hero too.

Wouter Snauwaert

Well, during my education as sinologist I have never read anything about a so-called “God” Guan Yu in any of the old classical Chinese scripts. It is true however that he has been revered and idolised tremendously after his death, but in that case I’d rather call him a ‘saint’ and not so much a ‘God’.
Anyway, it is true that anyone could become a god if enough people worship him/her 🙂

Sids

Fair enough, I may be wrong, or it might just be a very small minority position that I’ve over conflated. While what a ‘god’ is is pretty clear in most western traditions I think its a bit more blurred in this case.

Wouter Snauwaert

Probably because Chinese civilization has never had any real main God during its long history, unlike Western and Middle-Eastern cultures… 🙂

The Love-Letter

Guan Yu with Fu Dog units and some form of a war based god power… I’d be okay with this. He’d probably be focused on improving cavalry or something.

Quinten Labruyere
LuchoUy

Well now I feel they are copypasting smite gods too much

Frankly Man

I’m starting to wonder that to, particularly with Sun Wukong and more so if Guan Yu is in. Also the developers have said they want to balance the game online for a more competitive scene. Although on the plus side, Smite only has 10 Gods, unlike 12 here and the myth units and God powers can only be picks by themselves.

Sids

To be fair, it isn’t at all surprising that there would be a lot of overlap. I’m not familiar with Smite, but I would expect they would have picked 10 of the most prominent gods in the Chinese mythos to use, which is the same goal they have here. In the same way I would expect if we made a game using 10 Greek gods, it would inevitably share a lot with AoM. It’s not like the devs are supposed to be exercising creativity in making up new gods, just in the way they are implemented.

LuchoUy

Well, that’s the problem. Smite is not a good source to pick gods. To give you an example It has Hercules as a roman god when actually he was just a demigod.

Sids

Ah, I see. I’m not saying they were using Smite as a source though, rather that they shared a common source (ie Chinese mythology). As long as they don’t make the same sort of mistakes it would be fine (though I have seen a few issues with specific gods already, which makes me a little concerned with how much care they’ve taken)

Wouter Snauwaert

Yes, that’s what I have noticed too… Neither Huangdi nor Sun Wukong are gods.

666Kyo999

Unlike Greek mythology or the modern (and reduced) category of “god” or “deity”, in chinese folklore and mythology there are multiple beings that share the category of deity and may be worshiped. We have xian (or immortal), shen (spirit or deity), di (deity or god), huang (emperor), fo (buddhas), pusa (bodhisattva), jing (spirit), Tian (the closest thing the have to “God”), even ancestor or heroes may be venerated and are subject of worship. Even though Sun Wukong is not a deity per se nor is it widely revered (he forms part of the folklore nonetheless), Huangdi is worshiped and may… Read more »

The Love-Letter

I’m less concerned with them copying gods, and am mostly hoping they have good myth units. I’m really hoping for Fu Dogs as a mythic age unit.

666Kyo999

Well, the gods I considered would have been the best options for the different ages, considering it should have been inspired loosely by the Shang and Zhou dynasties, that existed around the same time as the Greeks and Egyptians, where as follows: -Zhu Rong: God of Fire, the South and Punishment -Xihe: Goddess of the Sun (to be paired with Chang’e) -Chang’e: Goddess of the Moon (with her rabbit and toad companions) -Cangjie: Four Eyed God of Writing and History -Chiyou: God of War (with brazen or bull head, I imagine him dressed like an ancient Mongolian, depending on the… Read more »

nin chan

这就是你们炮制了一年的垃圾 一坨狗屎 (#‵′)凸

Wouter Snauwaert

这不就是一个游戏而已嘛,干啥装逼

nin chan

黄帝成了个贼眉鼠眼 盖着半张脸 阴险 猥琐的 家伙 你就没一点感觉 刚发布龙的图像的时候还可以说是文化差异 现在已经够明显了 这就是一款带有种族歧视的垃圾作品
我从新DLC中品出了浓浓的恶意 制作组就是一帮王八蛋

Wouter Snauwaert

我估计制作组自己都不知道中国文化到底是什么样子的,所以应该不是故意把把形象或图片都做得如此怪怪歪歪的。说这是种族歧视的现象有点夸张….

flyoz Lin

Hey mate, just calm down. As a Chinese we’re all very unpleased with the image of Huangdi as well, you can choose to make your suggestions politely as everybody else. Can you please DO NOT utter dirty word the same as “bustard” towards developers? Very rude and uncivilised. Please notice a number of westerns can read Chinese here, you’re giving them a very bad impression, AS A CHINESE.

phoenix

并不是装逼。刚看到这形像时也是吓一跳,说这是谁呢!??看名字是huangdi后,觉得对这个包无爱了。

Wouter Snauwaert

我了解你的意思,但我依然觉得,无论他们把形象炮制得再不好,一切都是游戏的,所以不用太看重把…难道像LOL那种游戏都看起来是现实的吗?

nin chan

那你倒是说说哪款游戏敢拿上帝这样开刷 把上帝描绘成个鼠辈嘴脸 我只能说这明显已经是主观恶意了 再看不明白那就是睁眼瞎了

Wouter Snauwaert

嗯,我懂,但是你这个态度确实很爱国,我作为外国人就无法跟你解释了,我不能说你的想法是不正确的,而且这种事情判断起来谁说谁都有道理… 到此为止吧,我肯定制作组没有考虑到中国朋友的感受,但是也没有故意 我希歧视你们。我希望你还是乐意继乐意玩儿AoM。

Pionking

我个人通常不会以恶意去揣度别人,因此我是来提建议的,不是来捣乱的,我也很爱这款游戏,曾经也非常期待能看到中国神话的资料片。但是黄帝的形象的确过于突破我们的底线,不论是否是有意的,后果已经造成了。因此我们郑重的希望制作组能做出修改,这不是爱国的问题,祖先对于我们中国人是无比神圣崇高的,这是中国人的一种信仰。如果您还是不能理解,可以查一下傅满洲,或许您就会明白我们为何如此敏感了。

Wouter Snauwaert

不用,我研究了中国文化好几年了,所以我明白为什么 们您如此敏感。我也希望制作组会看到你们这里的评论,并且将游戏中的错误改正。也许有一天我们还能一起享受玩儿这款游戏。

Pionking

感谢您的理解和支持,您的中文很棒。

flyoz Lin

This whole thing about Huangdi’s image in this game is not all about patriotism. Believe or not it’s sort of insulting a “religious belief”, giving that Huangdi is considered as the common ancestor of all Chinese and thus he is still greatly worshipped by most of Chinese today. Hence, I don’t think choosing Huangdi as a god in this game is wise (he’s more like a Sacred Totem of Chinese culture than a pure god anyway), considering there are so many cool true “gods” in Chinese myth. So there are actually a lot of space for developers to accomplish a… Read more »

Noah Shepard

作为一个美国人,我不明白什么是错与黄帝的图片。本场比赛是不是100%的现实,而不是试图冒犯任何人。他们可能没有任何人是对中国员工体面的,所以它不会是100%准确。

Pionking

Huangdi is the ancestor of all Chinese, Chinese people have ancestor worship,
Huangdi have the same status with God, He is GOD for us. And the portrait is so ugly and insidious, most of Chinese players are pretty angry with this, if they issued it, they will lose many Chinese players.

Noah Shepard

I don’t think they mean to offend, I think the developers are just ignorant.

Pionking

Maybe, but it really let us feel insulted, think about it, an evil portrait of Jesus means what for Christian.We really really wish they change it.

Frankly Man

I understand your point but keep in mind, Jesus is far from being entirely 100% correctly represented in western media to, if not the most out of all religious figures and deities. I’m not saying you can’t still feel offended however.

Pionking

Yes, but Christian also have right to protest and refuse. We still think it was an insult.

Frankly Man

By all means you have the right (and reason) to do so. Content creators can learn for future instances.

Although I’m not sure about people not ignoring an inaccurate Jesus, there are plenty of examples out there in western media that are still about, but I suppose that’s a whole other topic for another time.

Wouter Snauwaert

I understand your frustrations, but you shouldn’t forget it’s just a game… No offence was intended in producing it.

Pionking

是不是有意的不重要,It’s not important to us that was intended or not. But it does offend the Chinese people.

nin chan

我在好奇要是你们的上帝(GODS)被描绘成歪瓜裂脑的白痴会是什么反应

dir

Zhong Kui, Ruler over the Ghosts of Hell: The brilliant Zhong Kui sends his bloodthirsty undead minions, the Jiangshi, after his foes, and can cause roots to erupt from the earth and damage enemy buildings!

darlingtonpear12

I read that as “and can cause robots to erupt from the earth” and got really excited – but…I guess roots will do.

Pionking

1, Huangdi is the ancestor of all Chinese,his wretched appearance is an insult to global Chinese,it alleged racial discrimination,we strongly request your amendment; 2, The name of Huangdi is GongsunXuanyuan, and name of Jade Emperor is Zhangjian,they are not the same one; 3, The Terra Cotta Warriors are the funeral objects of YingZheng(259-210 B.C.),an emperor of Qin dynasty,not Huangdi; 4, Jade Emperor is in Medieval Daoism myth system while Sun Wukong is in Buddhist mythology system, and Sun Wukong is more suitable for a hero instead of God; 5, Myths in ancient and medieval are completely different, those two myths… Read more »

Wouter Snauwaert

I do not think the mythology for the other civilizations is 100% accurate either, but still somehow the native people don’t feel offended… Just relax, bro. It’s just fiction.

Pionking

Yes, I understand. but it still is a mistake and if they don’t fix it,we won’t support the game anymore.

Frankly Man

That’s a fair stance. Based on what I know about game development, they may be able to edit the text and MAYBE one or two portraits in the space before release/post launch patch, otherwise they would have to delay it outright and I can’t see that happening. It’s your choice to not support it and I can see why and respect that and I’m sure there are others who will also but I can’t see it being most players.

Alex

If Zeus holding a golden apple in one hand and Trident, also recognize that it is Zeus?

Sids

I’ll just throw in my 2 cents: 1. I’m not really a fan of the picture here either, they did go a bit overboard with the stereotypes but bear in mind many of the gods aren’t portrayed in their most attractive appearance (I was never a fan of Artemis, myself). 2. This is the biggest one to me. While I’m sure it’s an honest mistake, it does make me worry if they haven’t been putting in as much care as they should. It should be pretty fixable though and I hope it will be corrected before release. 3. Many of… Read more »

Pionking

1.Yes, the appearance of many gods is uncertain, but THIS appearance of Huangdi looks like a criminal or addict in Chinese view, in any case we can’t accept it. 2.and3. is not important. 4.and5. The medieval of Chinese and the ancient is unlike Norway or Egypt, many of god’s status changed, like Jade Emporer and Western Queen(Xi Wangmu), they are gods of Taoism, and Sun Wukong become Buddha at last, ancient Chinese mythology is very confusing, the religion influences the medieval mythology too much, many gods does not exist in the same world view. 6.We Chinese think the appearance of… Read more »

Sids

If you want to get people on your side against racial discrimination, I would recommend not implying that looking Japanese is the same as looking like a devil. I’ll give the benefit of the doubt and assume that was just awkwardly phrased. Yeah, Huang Di and Chang’e picture stand out to me as ones that really ought to be changed. Huang Di looks rather off putting to me, especially the way the eyes stand out. and that really draws the attention. My biggest problem with Chang’e to me is that the art style just seem completely different to the rest… Read more »

Pionking

It’s not that looking Japanese is the same as looking like a devil, just THIS Chang’e looks like the Japanese look and like the Yaojing, maybe devil is not a suitable word, alluring woman? And you also should know there are lots of gods are the devils at the same time in Japanese mythology.

Frankly Man

Ah, this might be where cultural views of demons might occur. While I think both western and eastern gamers can see the issue with the Fu Manchu-like Huangdi, from a western standpoint at least Chang’e does not fall into demon or devil appearance. I do take issue with the art in that it seems like a different style compared to the rest but in terms of character presentation, she looks calm and peaceful with a bunny no less. Now compare this to the look of the Gods the original developers wanted you to think were devilish: Kronos, Set, Hades, Loki,… Read more »

Pionking

About Huangdi, how about this one? The first is Huangdi’s ascension in folk portrait.

TheRyander .

“1, Huangdi is the ancestor of all Chinese,his wretched appearance is an insult to global Chinese,it alleged racial discrimination,we strongly request your amendment;” laughing my ass off at this

hopefully the jade emperor bit gets fixed

Pionking

Oh, do you mean we can laugh because you have a white fat ass? Or your teacher didn‘t tell you what is respecting other’s faith?

Pionking

1, Huangdi is the ancestor of all Chinese,his wretched appearance is an insult to global Chinese,it alleged racial discrimination,we strongly request your amendment; 2, The name of Huangdi is GongsunXuanyuan, and name of Jade Emperor is Zhangjian,they are not the same one; 3, The Terra Cotta Warriors are the funeral objects of YingZheng(259-210 B.C.),an emperor of Qin dynasty,not Huangdi; 4, Jade Emperor is in Medieval Daoism myth system while Sun Wukong is in Buddhist mythology system, and Sun Wukong is more suitable for a hero instead of God; 5, Myths in ancient and medieval are completely different, those two myths… Read more »

Pionking

They are Huangdi and Chang’e

Ragnaer

looks good so far. Will there be a Aom2 or AoE4 if it sells good? I hope so.

Frankly Man

Not sure but they have used the word “FIRST” new expansion in regards to just this one.

Matt Clayton

Well, no, I think they’ve only said that it’s the first new expansion since the original releases. That doesn’t imply there will be more, but it does leave the door open.

Frankly Man

Of course, I’m just hoping since AoEII HD got a two new expansions.